wanted to build: horn and sinew composite bow
I am drawn to the horn bows that many people make here at PaleoPlanet. The images in the TBB and the (current) one at the top of this thread are just awsome. My problem is I am familiar with working...
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Steve: If you put all the bows you've made in one pile it would be the only other work or man visible from outer space. So I wouldn't argue with you so much. Those fastest gentle recurves you...
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TimI have yet to see a top end self straight bow outshoot a recurve. The best I've been able to do with a straight bow is mid 170's while I have been able to get into the 180's with a recurve. Now...
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Mark: A recurve feels side pulls straight tips don't. They have to be wider/heavier to withstand this.50lb pecan longbow, 500-grain arrow, low 180s. At 31" and an estimated 55lb Steve got 192fps,...
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TimWider? No. String tracking has to be very precise though. Steaming weakens the wood a bit though so they do have to be a bit thicker but you can reclaim some of that weight by trapping the...
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Mark: I doubt if anyone cand make a faster recurve than you. Your best bow would fairly represent that design's capacity. If I'm even near right about speeds of best straight bows the numbers will be...
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How about this: The winner gets to cut the tips off of the looser's bow and wear them as pendants (boar tusk style) on a primal necklas!
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TimVery well. There would be no need to send any bow back to me since there's enough eyes down there to verify the results. You still didn't say if there were any design restriction for the recurve. I...
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Mark:This is good I doubt if in all archery history there has been such a fair and decisive measure of the benefits of two bow designs. I think we should eliminate all variables except the two in...
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TimI'm not a bow building machine like Steve there. I think we need to trim that down to 1 bow and maybe go from there. I have the perfect stave in my shop, I have been wondering what to do with it...
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Marc: Sounds good. I'll start looking for a good stave today. Kerfing could have some small effect. And self recurving would quell any after-test doubters. I'm in a tiny apt. 400-miles from my shop so...
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Marc: Addendum: to eliminate all but tested variables both staves should be straight before tillering starts, no reflex. Yes? Tim
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TimWhy would you not want to try to test the most you can get out of each design? In other words you make a straight limbed bow using any design you want including severe reflex and I will do the...
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Marc: The starting premise is that the simplest of all possible bows, the humble, ancient self straight-stave bow, if scraped out to a certain shape, can hold it's own against top end self recurves. A...
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Tim,Have you changed your view that the profile of a bow determines arrow speed? We know now that a light tipped straight stave bow can out shoot a recurve...Johnny
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Mark, actually when you look it from a different perspective it is interesting like this, more of a challenge of designs than bowyers, You have always been known to make top recurves and tim has been...
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Well it goes against my grain but straight it is, even though this would not be a top end recurve. I won't be able to start this till after new years anyway.Marc
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Marc: This will be an interesting and valuable test. Sincere thanks for agreeing to the pure recurve. If the straight bow does ok againt it maybe the next time you've made what you feel is a best...
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Quite frankly Tim. I don't really see the point in my making a bow such as what you want. Steve could easily make a bow as you describe just as well as I can. Actually there are probably several...
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Marc: The test is of designs, not bowmakers, so you're right, it doesn't matter who makes the candidate recurve, as long as those interested in the results know it represents the best of it's type. So...
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Many of you remember the Korean bowyer, Geuk-hwan Park (who was the subject of my video The Way of the Bow: Crafting the Korean Horn Bow), and that he was stricken with a brain problem that left him...
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